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Why Are China Collections Not Added To Worldwide Collections
Q. Every other major website and trade person
adds dubbed China collections to worldwide total but not boxofficeindia which
is wrong as it should go in Worldwide even if its dubbed and so should Tamil
and Telugu collections be added to India totals. When will BOI give the whole
worldwide collections as Dangal is 2200 crore not 702 crore.
A. Every other website also has higher collections sometimes even 50 crore more. Just because everyone does it does it mean its correct. First the Tamil and Telugu collections are not added but its for every film. Its the same for Bahubali - The Conclusion also, otherwise this film should also have the Tamil and Telugu collections added but the media knows if they do for this then it will never be broken so you have one rule for one film and another rule for other films. 2.0 is doing 400 crore nett the way media reports on a worse case scenario and this film is bilingual with some characters speaking Tamil and others Hindi but here the media will not be reported in full and only Hindi collections taken. The difference with BoxOfficeIndia is that its one rule for every film not as per demand of time. The collections you see on the website are like for like so the comparisons make sense and are valid. Going forward this trend of bilinguals will become more prevalent as the need is for bigger films and bilinguals can be made with higher production values but there is a system here since inception ob website and that will be kept same.
Now coming to China its actually not dubbed but partly dubbed, partly subtitled and partly voice overs but basically its not the same film as in India and changed to suit the Far East markets. It is two different films. This market is basically like Russia pre 1992 and this is one of the reasons that the database is stuck at 1993 as the Russia collections come into play and as we go into the early 90's, 80's and 70's, there are some films which are far bigger in Russia than Dangal is in China. Also just like China these films were not watched by an Indian origin crowd but the local crowd. Again like China, the films were not the same as they were for India but adjusted for the Russian markets. But what happens when these numbers get added is that it changes history as per what the general Indian audience knows. So the worldwide greats are not Mughal E Azam, Sholay, Hum Aapke Hain Kaun or Gadar as Hindi film watchers across the world believe because these either flopped in Russia or did not release there but other films which were not blockbusters in India and some of these were not even HIT in India. When these Far East or Russian collections are added its like having 1 cr red apples and 1 cr green apples and then adding up saying i have 2 cr red apples when in reality its 1 cr red ones and 1 cr green ones.
Now these Russia and China collections will not be added and collections reported in the same way as they are at the present time. Simply put he likes Disco Dancer, Dance Dance, Secret Superstar, Dangal and many others are not legendary greats but with Russia or China they become bigger than the legendary films especially Disco Dancer.
But the business of these films across all markets is noted and by the end of the year when the database has another 10-12 years added, there will be another seperate section where these Russian and Far East collections and Tamil Telugu can be seen so a film has a total with all its versions added. But main section will always be like for like and will not add red and green apples and then say there are all red apples. This will be understood more when the figures are updated and people can make own conclusions to which way gives more accurate picture.
Why Business Of Dubbed Tamil Telugu Not Included
The question that pops up in the mailbox regularly is that
why is not the business of dubbed versions not included on the website
especially when major Hindi films are dubbed in other in languages. Basically
dubbing films is a token gesture and business will be in the 3-5% range of the
Hindi version. Even a film collecting 10 crore nett in Hindi can be dubbed and
it can do upwards of 25 lakhs nett.
The biggest problem is when dubbed business is included than
you have to include films of that language as well to have the correct picture.
Then the tax picture comes into play as a film doing a huge proportion of its
business in Tamil will be paying much less tax than a predominantly Hindi film
so NETT numbers make little sense. This can be explained better by the two
charts below. First one is the top ten grossing films in HINDI and then the
second one is top ten grossing films in all languages. In the second one
some regional films come into play, even the topmost one then becomes a non
Hindi release.
Top Ten Grossing Hindi Films NETT
1. Dangal (2016) - 374,61,00,000
2. PK (2014) - 324,27,00,000
3. Bajrangi Bhaijaan (2015) - 316,79,00,000
4. Sultan (2016) - 295,93,00,000
5. Dhoom 3 (2013) - 261,25,00,000
6. Chennai Express (2013) - 218,53,00,000
7. Kick (2014) - 214,02,00,000
8. 3 Idiots (2009) - 201,37,00,000
9. Krrish 3 (2013) - 198,66,00,000
10. Happy New Year (2014) - 188,55,00,000
Top Grossing Films NETT (All Languages)
1. Bahubali (2015) - 419,56,00,000
2. Dangal (2016) - 387,28,00,000
3. PK (2014) - 324,27,00,000
4. Bajrangi Bhaijaan (2015) - 316,79,00,000
5. Sultan (2016) - 295,93,00,000
6. Dhoom 3 (2013) - 272,25,00,000
7. Chennai Express (2013) - 218,53,00,000
8. Kick (2014) - 214,02,00,000
9. Robot (2010) - 213,84,00,000
10. Krrish 3 (2013) - 205,71,00,000
11. Kabali (2016) - 205,16,00,000
12. 3 idiots (2009) - 201,37,00,000
13. Happy New Year (2014) - 195,05,00,000
As can be seen above, the dubbed business changes the
rankings totally. Another point to note is when a film is dubbed into another
language then that business is not coming from a HINDI film, sometimes even the
name is changed.
The figures in GROSS for all languages will change the
rankings due to lower taxes for regional films and those are the ones that have
to be used when you are not comparing like for like and they will put up
tomorrow.
GST (Good and Service Tax) is supposed to be implemented
soon and it will probably be one slab across the country which will give fairer
playing field but its probable the state governments will give some sort of
exemptions to regional films to make tax lower while there will be no relief as
usual for Hindi films which always get step motherly treatment from the
government. The plus will the highest slab in GST will be a little lower than
the present taxes at an all India level.
Can Robot 2 Smash All Records Box Office Records In Hindi
Q. Will Ranbir Kapoor have to commercial masala film to really fulfill his potential as a big star as he is the best out of the young ones but his numbers are more or less tha same as others.
A. Masala films don't mean anything, some can be good and some can be bad and the results at the box office will be as per the film. A poor masala film is not going to do big numbers which is the same for a film about any genre. Its about making good films with story telling which the audience understands. You don't have to do a masala film to put up a big grosser, it can be a drama, love story or action but it has to have good content which is relatable to the audience. Also every artiste has to make choices as to what they think is good and hope the audience thinks the same, you can't prempt as that way you may do something you don't believe in and that will show in performance.
R. Mallik
Q. You have said that the cash crunch is not the reason for the huge disaster of Rock On 2 but although the the first Rock On may not be much at the box office it was a respected film and would that not have been an advantage?
A. Respected by who? Cinema audience in India did not take to it, ditto cinema audience for Overseas, the television audience rejected it outright. So when none of the audience is respecting it, there is no respect. You are probably coming from what is written in media but that may be 500 or 1000 people, lets say there are even 100,000 but when the public has spelled it out these vagye opinions mean nothing. Respect only comes from the audience and Rock On!! (2008) did not get it so results were inevitable for Rock On 2 though on a normal release it could have done 15 crore nett instead of 10 crore nett but that would still be a disaster.
N. Ramana
Q. Can Robot 2 smash all records box office records in hindi also due to the presence of Akshay Kumar?
A. Robot 2 is a Rajnikant film, not an Akshay Kumar film, he is the villain a bit like what Sanjay Dutt was in Agneepath and Vivek Oberoi was in Krrish 3. Even in the Hindi belt the audience will see it as an Rajnikant film as you can't change the theatrical trailer and present it as Akshay Kumar film who is villain. The plus will be that Robot was a huge hit on television so recall value is there and the key will be how grand is the scale of film. These things could make the opening like a big Hindi release in the hindi markets despite it being dubbed. At an all India level it can be anything with a star like Rajnikant there as South records will be shattered.
Anil Gharde
Q. Who would you say is the biggest star out of John Abraham, Saif Ali Khan and Shahid Kapoor
A. Out of the three it would be Shahid Kapoor though bad choices like Haider, Shaandar and Udta Punjab has meant potential has not been fulfilled and younger stars have raced past with better films. There is still a chance for some redemption with Padmavati because if the film is like the original story then the story is such that the audience can only be with one of the heroes and if it is Shahid Kapoor they relate with more and the film is a hit it would be a huge shot in the arm. Of course if it goes the way of Ranveer Singh then that will be it as far as becoming a real star goes.
K.Saluja
BOXOFFICEINDIA "YOU ASKET IT" (2011)
Q. Which system is used in the industry for verdicts, the return on investment or per print?
A. Slowly the industry is seeing the theatrical way is the way forward as you can't bring in satellite, music and video prices to judge a film at the box office, it must be theatrical collections. Some in the trade do stick to ROI but don't stick to it for every film.
Q. Why did Yamla Pagla Deewana take a big opening despite the cast not being hot today and lack of hit music?
A. It took a big single screen opening as Sunny Deol is still a force in single screens if presented in the right way. In the North, the Dharmendra factor helped as it brings a non regular film going older generation to the theatres so multiplexes also scored as families came out.
A. It took a big single screen opening as Sunny Deol is still a force in single screens if presented in the right way. In the North, the Dharmendra factor helped as it brings a non regular film going older generation to the theatres so multiplexes also scored as families came out.
Q. Can Dhobi Ghat beat the business of Peepli Live as it stars Aamir Khan while Peepli Live was only produced by him and he was not actually there in the film?
A. It will be a huge surprise if Dhobi Ghat comes anywhere close to Peepli [Live]. Dhobi Ghat seems to be lacking in entertainment so opening will be low, it could pick up at select metro multiplexes. On the other hand Peeple [Live] offered some entertainment through its promos which gave it a chance at the box office.
A. It will be a huge surprise if Dhobi Ghat comes anywhere close to Peepli [Live]. Dhobi Ghat seems to be lacking in entertainment so opening will be low, it could pick up at select metro multiplexes. On the other hand Peeple [Live] offered some entertainment through its promos which gave it a chance at the box office.
Q. Dil Toh Baccha Hai Ji and Dhobi Ghat made no looses for and money for everyone, so shouldn't the verdict be more than Below Average?
A. When films don't perform at the box office there are always losses for someone. Dil Toh Baccha Hai lost money for some distributors while Dhobi Ghat was a loser for many exhibitors as it had to be pulled out some theatres after ten days as it was probably no collecting enough to cover the show costs
Q. Can any heroine today carry a film at the box office?
A. Today its very difficult as business is mainly about getting that opening weekend in and heroine oriented subjects don't open well.
Q. Can you tell me the biggest hits of Shashi Kapoor?
A. The biggest were the Manoj Kumar directed multistarrers Kranti and Roti Kapada Makaan but as solo lead they were Jab Jab Phool Khile, Chor Machaye Shor and Fakira.
A. The biggest were the Manoj Kumar directed multistarrers Kranti and Roti Kapada Makaan but as solo lead they were Jab Jab Phool Khile, Chor Machaye Shor and Fakira.
Q. Why has business become so low in UK and US?
A. Its not just for Hindi films, even Hollywood film's have not been doing great over last year. Its more of a case of consumer spending down on leisure activities in the country with Hindi films also facing rampant piracy with films available on day of release to download. Hopefully Ra1 and Don 2 will get the big numbers overseas.
Q. What are the expectations for Ajay Devgan's Singham?
A. Huge, the way distributors are very confident of this film, it could do business of over 100 crore nett. The promo out this week is being compared to Dabangg promo by those who have seen it.
Q. Imran Khan has had two hits recently, is he now ahead of Ranbir Kapoor out of the younger heroes?
A. Ranbir Kapoor is in a one horse race as far as the young heroes are concerned at the box office. Imran Khan is yet to put up good numbers outside the urban centres, even a mass film like Mere Brother Ki Dulhan does well in the same places as Delhi Belly does well.
A. Ranbir Kapoor is in a one horse race as far as the young heroes are concerned at the box office. Imran Khan is yet to put up good numbers outside the urban centres, even a mass film like Mere Brother Ki Dulhan does well in the same places as Delhi Belly does well.
Q. Do you think that films like London Dreams and Veer would have been big hits now as Salman Khan is just unstoppable at the box office?
A. Content still matters. Even if released today, Veer would only be a hit in places like Rajasthan and CI while London Dreams would flop as it did in 2009.
A. Content still matters. Even if released today, Veer would only be a hit in places like Rajasthan and CI while London Dreams would flop as it did in 2009.
Q. How has the music of Ra.One and Rockstar fared.
A. Chammak Challo is a hit song from Ra.One but the music as a whole is fair. Rockstar music is going up every week.
A. Chammak Challo is a hit song from Ra.One but the music as a whole is fair. Rockstar music is going up every week.
Q. There are foreign artists like Akon singing in Ra.One, Ludacris for Speedy Singhs, Kylie Minogue in Blue, is this a big boost to the box office potential of films?
A. It is all irrelevant as these people are are not popular in India and not even known as far as 95% of the audience is concerned. If what ever they do in Hindi films is very good then it will appreciated, otherwise there names makes no difference
Q. Which film has the best word of mouth in 2011?
A. Probably Ready followed Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara and Singham on an all India basis.
A. Probably Ready followed Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara and Singham on an all India basis.
Q. Can Ra.One Do a 20 crore day one?
A. With the mega release it has the potential but first day is Diwali Puja and business is hit by 35%. The second day should be the biggest day in history. If first day is anywhere near 20 crore then the film is likely to smash all weekend and first week records by a disatnce.
A. With the mega release it has the potential but first day is Diwali Puja and business is hit by 35%. The second day should be the biggest day in history. If first day is anywhere near 20 crore then the film is likely to smash all weekend and first week records by a disatnce.
Q. There are super successful heroines in the film industry like Kareena Kapoor and Katrina Kaif but do they make a difference to the saleability film as everyone calls it a hero dominated industry ?
A. See this depends on the film, if Kareena or Katrina are in a film which features one of the 5 or 6 biggest superstars then there is no difference from the saleability point of view but if its not a film of these big stars then they make a big difference and could he even be biggest selling point.
A. See this depends on the film, if Kareena or Katrina are in a film which features one of the 5 or 6 biggest superstars then there is no difference from the saleability point of view but if its not a film of these big stars then they make a big difference and could he even be biggest selling point.
Q. What will be the final investment of Ra.One?
A. The landing cost will probably be around the 125 crore plus by the time it is releases everywhere.
A. The landing cost will probably be around the 125 crore plus by the time it is releases everywhere.
Q. Which is the biggest grosser more overseas, Zindagi Na mMilegi Dobara or Bodyguard?
A. Bodyguard but Ra.One will beat all by a disatnce.
A. Bodyguard but Ra.One will beat all by a disatnce.
Q. Will Agneepath and Tezz release on the same day in January?
A. Agneepath is a certainty for that date and it is unlikely the makers of Tezz would risk the clash as Agneepath is a very big film.
A. Agneepath is a certainty for that date and it is unlikely the makers of Tezz would risk the clash as Agneepath is a very big film.
Q. Do you think Ra.One can beat the business of films like Dabangg and Bodyguard at single screens?
A. Opening is possible but lifetime may be tough as Dabangg and Bodyguard type of action fares tend to have a bigger market with the single screen audience.
Q. Will the huge opening of Ra.One mean Shahrukh Khanis top again and ahead of Salman Khan?
A. Unlikely, he will have to get same opening with Don then maybe. Basically the Khans can all get the openings with the big commercial ventures but the biggest star will be the one who has the most volume of films and that is likely to be Salman Khan.
A. Unlikely, he will have to get same opening with Don then maybe. Basically the Khans can all get the openings with the big commercial ventures but the biggest star will be the one who has the most volume of films and that is likely to be Salman Khan.
Q. Can Ra.One become a blockbuster and the biggest hit of the year?
A. Chances are practically zero, probably hit due to opening and star power.
A. Chances are practically zero, probably hit due to opening and star power.
Q. Who are the greatest directors of Hindi cinema of all time?
A. Raj Kapoor and Manmohan Desai stand well ahead of the others. Raj Kapoor directed the biggest hit in 1949 and the biggest hit in 1985 a gap of 36 years and many biggest hits of the year in between those years. The legend directed ten films and seven of them were the biggest hits of the year when released. Normally a big director may get the biggest hit of the year once in a career and that would be great. Manmohan Desai had umpteen mega hits between 1970 and 1985 and no director did or is ever likely again to see such mega success on such volume of films.
Q. Ra.One was expected to do 175 crore before release but it will just do 120 crore so it has fallen well short of expectations?
A. You can only have expectations of an opening before release not the final lifetime as that is totally dependent on how public reacts to the film. The opening probably fell 20% short, 10% if we allow for Diwali Puja. 175 crore would have been excellent, but 120 may not be a great but is still a good number. The final figure will be just 17-18% lower than Bodyguard which is the highest grosser of the year.
A. You can only have expectations of an opening before release not the final lifetime as that is totally dependent on how public reacts to the film. The opening probably fell 20% short, 10% if we allow for Diwali Puja. 175 crore would have been excellent, but 120 may not be a great but is still a good number. The final figure will be just 17-18% lower than Bodyguard which is the highest grosser of the year.
Q. In the 70's and 80's almost all directors made big budget commercial Hindi masala films with universal appeal and today a lot make big budget dark and off beat films like Rockstar, Kites, Guzaarish etc. Is it because today there are no directors left who make Hindi commercial cinema or because masala cinema is not as strong at the box office today
A. There are directors like Anees Bazmee, Farah Khan, Sajid Khan and Rohit Shetty who make full out big budget commercial masala films and its nothing to do with box office as these directors all have excellent box office track records. The scarcity of directors who believe in commercial masala cinema today is probably why the break-even ratio is down to 15% from 50% in the early 80's as its commercial masala films that have universal appeal and bigger box office returns.
A. There are directors like Anees Bazmee, Farah Khan, Sajid Khan and Rohit Shetty who make full out big budget commercial masala films and its nothing to do with box office as these directors all have excellent box office track records. The scarcity of directors who believe in commercial masala cinema today is probably why the break-even ratio is down to 15% from 50% in the early 80's as its commercial masala films that have universal appeal and bigger box office returns.
Q. Which film has the biggest brand value Dhoom, Golmaal, Munnabhai or Dabangg?
A. On an all India level its Dhoom followed by Dabangg while big cities it will be Munnabhai.
A. On an all India level its Dhoom followed by Dabangg while big cities it will be Munnabhai.
Q. How much money will Eros/SRK and distributors make or lose with Ra.One ?
A. SRK/Eros will in the plus by around 20 crore or more. Most distributors are safe.
Q. Which are the films over the next months which have a chance to hit the 100 crore nett mark?
A. Don 2, Agneepath and Housefull 2.
A. Don 2, Agneepath and Housefull 2.
P Chohan
Q. Desi Boyz has good promotion and created a big buzz over last two weeks do you think it can take a 35 crore opening weekend?
A. On the ground level with exhibitors and distributors it is not too hot so it may have a buzz but there is not much actual enquiries from the public so a 35 crore opening looks near impossible task. A 25 crore nett weekend is probably more realistic number for the weekend. If word of mouth is good then a bit higher but 35 crore nett is very unlikely.
A. On the ground level with exhibitors and distributors it is not too hot so it may have a buzz but there is not much actual enquiries from the public so a 35 crore opening looks near impossible task. A 25 crore nett weekend is probably more realistic number for the weekend. If word of mouth is good then a bit higher but 35 crore nett is very unlikely.
Q. Shahrukh Khan has been undisputed number one in overseas for decades but don't you think he has been caught by the others like Salman Khan, Aamir Khan and Hrithik Roshan today ?
A. If some markets others are closer but its like one guy is giving SRK a run for his money in one market, in another he is number 4 or 5. Aamir Khan and Hrithik Roshan are close today in North America but well behind in UK. Salman Khan is close in UAE and Pakistan but well short in North America. Shahrukh Khan is the only actor strong across all overseas markets as well as a following in places like Germany, France and Poland.
Q. Which films are the top musical hits of the year ?
A. Ready and Bodyguard.
A. Ready and Bodyguard.
Q. Your box office rankings put Akshay Kumar and Ajay Devgn out of the top five while there are rankings on TV and internet which have them on top five based on public voting and research so should they not be in your top five?
A. Only box office collections decides popularity not voting and research. The rankings you are talking about are probably not based on boxoffice so are sort of irrelevant.
A. Only box office collections decides popularity not voting and research. The rankings you are talking about are probably not based on boxoffice so are sort of irrelevant.
Q. Is it easier of big stars today to give blockbusters then say ten years ago?
A. Of course as business is becoming more and more about initial every week. Ten tears ago initial was also important but a film needed at least 100 days run at big centres to be a big hit, today you can score a blockbuster with a solo one week run.
A. Of course as business is becoming more and more about initial every week. Ten tears ago initial was also important but a film needed at least 100 days run at big centres to be a big hit, today you can score a blockbuster with a solo one week run.
Q. Who are the top five most popular heroines in the industry?
A. The top five are Kareena Kapoor, Katrina Kaif, Priyanka Chopra, Deepika Padukone and Anushka Sharma. Now after The Dirty Picture Vidya Balan will also be somewhere amongst the top five.
Q. What are the expectations for the first weekend of Don 2?
A. It looks a 45 crore nett weekend at the moment. A couple of circuits could see new records for opening day.
A. It looks a 45 crore nett weekend at the moment. A couple of circuits could see new records for opening day.
Q. Does the UK government offer subsidy to Indian film makers and if so how much will have Ra.One and Desi Boyz got back.?
A. There is a subsidy sheme in UK for films shot there. RA.One would have got back around 15-17 crore while 6-7 crore for Desi Boyz.
Q. Will Don 2 beat the business of Ra.One?
A. Content will decide as opening week may not be as strong because Ra.One had a five day weekend. For Don 2 both Christmas and new year holidays are falling on the wrong days.
A. Content will decide as opening week may not be as strong because Ra.One had a five day weekend. For Don 2 both Christmas and new year holidays are falling on the wrong days.
Q. Will Don 2 be another blockbuster for the year making it four blockbusters 2011?
A. Unlikely probably hit film unless multiplexes get good number of shows for next week then chance of being Super Hit.
A. Unlikely probably hit film unless multiplexes get good number of shows for next week then chance of being Super Hit.
Q. Is Ra.One the biggest hit in Overseas for 2011?
A. At the moment it is but seems like Don 2 will probably beat it in the final count.
A. At the moment it is but seems like Don 2 will probably beat it in the final count.
Q. Can Don 2 become the biggest Worldwide grosser of 2011?
A. It will definitely be second and it has chances to be top as well but that will depend on what total it can get from Overseas. A $15 million total from Overseas will take it to the top and above Bodyguard.
A. It will definitely be second and it has chances to be top as well but that will depend on what total it can get from Overseas. A $15 million total from Overseas will take it to the top and above Bodyguard.
Q. Which are the biggest hit songs of 2011 on an all India level as every chart has a different five?
A. These things are hard to evaluate especially on an all India level unless you have clear cut sensations like Munni Badnam or Sheila Ki Jawaani. What can be said is that Ready is the biggest album of the year as that will earn the most money from its music.
Q. Will Don 2 and Ra.One not being the biggest grossers affect the star power of Shahrukh Khan?
A. Don 2 and Ra.One are the second and third biggest worldwide grossers of the year and both of them are in the top five of all time so if they are not big grossers then not many films are.
A. Don 2 and Ra.One are the second and third biggest worldwide grossers of the year and both of them are in the top five of all time so if they are not big grossers then not many films are.
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